Plime - The unfriendly news aggregator
Now that Digg is dead to me I need to find a new home for social news and bookmarking. I do still use Netscape and StumbleUpon for finding things of interest but I need something that is social aside from Netscape.
I enjoy commenting on articles and finding people with similar interests, does such a site exist?
In the spirit of my quest I took some time today to look at Plime.
According to the website:
Plime is a news aggregator, wiki (editable by all) and friend finder in one. It relies on the power of online community participation to control it's structure and editorial content. It's also a great place to meet others with similar interests.
I first noticed Plime when I was checking my server logs and I saw an influx of trafic from their site. Curious I took some time to look over their site and try it out.
- Good
- Clean wiki-style interface
- Collapsable category listing on the left side
- Up and down voting is transparent
- All submissions can have an image associated with them
- You can customize your color scheme
- No advertising
- Bad
- Karma system easily abused to inflate a users power
- No FAQ on site
- Aggresive "don't come around here no more" moderators
- Same content you will find on Netscape/Reddit/Digg
I went into Plime expecting a basic news aggregator type of site. I found a good variety of categories and a system designed to help you find people with similar likes. I even submitted two stories to see how the community would react. This is when things turned bad.
One particular user (may be a mod, no way to be sure) I ran into was actively taking the role of a cop. He dropped comments all over the site pestering posters about abusing the system or only posting articles that would result in personal gain.
I can understand moderating a community and looking out for content that does not belong but I got a very unfriendly vibe from Plime. I do not think I will be going back there again.
Don't just take my word for it, take a look at their website and make up your own mind.
I saw you submitted my Funny Girl post and was slammed down by a user. I found the aggressive stance very off-putting, especially when you responded nicely to one remark which received more bad attitude and then when you explained what you were doing, more nastiness! PLUS, the user accused you of submitting 2 entries for self-promotion which was untrue.
I didn’t bother hanging around after that.
Aggressive moderators is right! As soon as I posted an article they changed the image to a can of SPAM and quickly buried it with several “no spam” comments. I like their fiestiness, but it really wasn’t spam. So yeah, definitely some tough, aggressive moderators.
Hah. I was scrolling through the “deleted” section and came across your submission Steve. That Hoosker is a real dick.
I tried to go back on later in the day and add some stuff that did not “benefit me personally” but my account was knocked down to zero karma and I can’t submit now!
That is what I mean by an easily abused karma system.
Same here. I stopped by this morning but my account is completely locked out. I can’t comment, vote something up, or vote it down. So what’s the point?
I think I’ll be happy to let them keep their little site elite.
That is a real ‘bummer’. Besides the point, there’s always some bad eggs in a basket, so you could just leave them aside and ignore them. For me, I would still be looking at StumbleUpon and well.. ‘Digg’.
On Plime, I found out quickly that you have to argue and spit at the oldest (first on when Plime started) users. Then you have to comment on submissions to get voted up.
They’re not all bad, but there are a select few that I like to call the “Plime Nazis”. When I see them doing the bad things that they do, I vote them down. I would suggest you do the same. If enough people vote down the nazis, they’ll lose their power.
I do submit my own blog postings and some get knocked down and some don’t. My first experience pissed me off and I wasn’t going to head back, but the owner basically said what I was doing was okay, just bad timing.
If you go through the deleted section, you’ll see stuff that even you would have to agree are not worth being submitted. I can see it from both their and my own point of view.
Frankly, I was surprised to see the girlfriend submission get knocked down. Then I read the comments and saw that the guy who voted you down was wrong. I told him he was wrong with a negative vote on all his comments on that submission. His vote was the only one that took it down, but I suspect it’s because others just followed suit.
Hmmmm, never heard of plime. But I will say that Netscape has been nothing but good to us. I agree, having something other than Netscape would be helpful in finding good info.
I will be honest and right out say that I am a member of Plime. So maybe my comments are biasd. They are fact however.
I think the problem right now is a misconception of the idea behind plime, and that is clear from your post.
For one, you talk about moderators being harsh on the site. This is incorrect, as plime does not have moderators. Plime’s community is controlled and run by the community itself.
The only person that can be called a moderator is the site’s creator. All other users are regular users. By gaining status in the community (thanks to up-votes), they gain more ‘power’ to control the site. Someone who does not follow the rules and who is a bad person in the community will not reach such a level. It takes a lot of members’ votes in order to give members a certain status.
Plime is rather new, and therefore has no set FAQ yet. Of course you can create a FAQ for a website before you launch it, but isn’t that a bit pointless? How can you know what the frequently asked questions about the site are if the site is not even running yet? That is why the creators of plime want the community to compose their own FAQ. This is currently being worked on in the forum, and has quite an extensive list already.
As for the abusing of the Karma system, I don’t see that as a problem. It takes a lot of votes in order to reach much higher levels. Just some random user who’s up to no good does not get to a high level.
The fact that the same information is on plime that you can find on other sites makes sense, since it’s a news aggregator. People post links. Obviously those thinks are going to be duplicate sometimes.
Whether that member is or is not a moderator they are acting like one. With a high karma rating comes an increased responsability.
I was very open and honest about the two submissions I submitted when asked. I was not nasty and at least one of the submissions gained in popularity after I submitted it. I do not feel I benefited from both submissions as only one was to my blog and the other was to a blog that is not run by me.
Why did I not submit other content? Because I did not want to submit dupes!
When I read through the forums and other parts of the site I was given the impression that Plime had no problem with users submitting their own content
7. Post your own articles and editorials
Users can create and edit their own articles. This item is in alpha release.
I submitted this to Plime to draw attention to both this article and everyone’s comments. So far people seem to taking this seriously.
From my experience with any social news site, if you just come it and submit your blog you’re gonna get booed. There’s no problem with self promotion, as long as you’re also contributing to the community in other ways.
Here’s the Plime submission:
http://www.plime.com/l/12646/1/
I would comment on Plime but since I am now at 0 karma I can’t do anything on the site!
There’s definitely a sense of policing there, but it’s not by “moderators”. All users are moderators on the site.
I’ve taken some steps to ask people to be alot nicer in how they treat new members. We’re at an interesting cross roads though… one where a tiny site composed of a group of people from Worth1000 suddenly got noticed by a lot of blogs as an easy source of good traffic. Take a look at the deleted section and you can see why members are cranky. There are so many more spammers submitting their stuff then their used to be. As RTCA said, it’s a case of bad timing.
I’m going to post in the forum again to remind people to treat others with respect and give them the benefit of the doubt (which was already done here yesterday http://www.plime.com/f/657/).
I will say this though: HMTKSteve, you submitted your content to “research” plime. That’s fine, but you should have revealed your intention and you wouldn’t have gotten the same response. Transparency on Plime is everything (it’s why we show you what your voting power is actually worth, whereas Digg, which also has a karma system, does not). And when users (especially journalists) are not transparent in their actions it will upset people.
Jax,
I did read through the forums and I saw the posts where you ask the existing users to be nicer to the noobs like me. That is a good thing.
Yes, I posted two articles as “research”. Part of research requires that you not notify people right away that it is research (they call it a double-blind test) but I still did say what it was when questioned.
I like the transparency of Plime but, now that I have zero karma I can not do anything on the site. I can’t even vote a comment or story up or down! Can you at least reset me back to one karma point so I can become a member of the community?
HMTKsteve, I will vote your comments up to get you back into +1 karma so you can participate.
There you go, Steve. Straight from the horse’s mouth. You can’t get any better than that.
Incidentally, I just noticed your quote:
“When I read through the forums and other parts of the site I was given the impression that Plime had no problem with users submitting their own content
7. Post your own articles and editorials
Users can create and edit their own articles. This item is in alpha release.”
That’s a fair point. It addresses people creating their own articles wikipedia style, a feature which has since been removed for retooling. I can understand the confusion and I will remove that line.
Thanks for the quick responses. Once I get back to a positive karma rating I will try to become a member of the community. I will not post any stories from my own blog (no matter how good they may be) and in a month or so I will report back on my findings.
When I read this I too got the impression that submitting your own stuff was okay. Then I seemed to get targeted by this aggressive mod / power user / whatever and I really don’t know if I want to be in the same community with someone who likes to go on power trips like that.
There area ways to submit articles from your blog and have it accepted.
1) Become an active member, posting links, stories, articles, etc that have nothing to do with your site. Then when you post the occasional self-article it will be looked on much more favorably. The main complaint, and the ones that caused the problems is those who post nothing but their own material. Posting nothing but your own stuff, turns it from a sharing conversation to a lecture.
2) Some personal posts belong more in the forum than on the news page. These are usually short little snippets of a story such as the one about funny girls getting the guy. The forum is for more personal interaction. A place we can hang out together and discuss things on a more intimate, personal level.
3) If your blog post is about some news story or is an opinion piece, than post a link to the original story or subject and then follow that up with a comment about your thoughts and even include a link to your site.
Those type of posts are especially appreciated by many of the users. We do want to hear your opinion, thoughts, analysis. We just want the aticle that is posted to the front page to be as unbiased as possible than we can engage in friendly conversation.
Dropping in to defend plime here. I believe I am one of the “dicks” in question (specificaly the one wildbluffmatt referred to). I’m not a mod, just a member like everyone else on the site.
Just to clarify, there are no mods. Every member of the site is a moderator in that they can up or down vote the submission. Several downvotes on the same story will result in the story making its way to the deleted page. A user can only downvote an article once.
I am conflicted on one aspect of your review, however. In your list of good aspects of plime, you included “No advertising.” But then you go on to complain about links to your personal site being down-voted. Is joining a site strictly to link to your own site/blog in order to gain traffic anything other than advertising? Or were you talking about google ads?
Anyway, that’s where most of us nazis are coming from.
Also, there is an FAQ… It’s just not finalized yet. This is still a relatively new site.
Hey um, donteatpoop,
You misunderstood the context. He meant advertising BY the site like you see on digg.
I recommend adblockplus for everyone. Google Ads never bothered me, but these huge glaring banners and flash animations that appear everywhere do.
[...] “unfriendly news aggregator”, kinda like Digg. HMTK decided to check it out and had an interesting experience. I followed and had a very similar one. Maybe it’s for you, but it’s definitely not for [...]
I think Plime is like any other area of life, you have disagreements with people but if so inclined you move on and get on with it.
I’ve had a few “disagreements” with Donteatpoop (He’s not a Nazi by the way) and a few others but we get on ok now and in general it’s a friendly, informative place to hang out.
My advice is, if you don’t like it just don’t go there again, simple.
Oh and Wildbluffmatt, Hooskers actually a good guy and I’ve never seen him be abusive to anyone and I’ve certainly never seen him resort to name calling so….
But he has that mean looking avatar. j/k
“Karma system easily abused to inflate a users power
No FAQ on site
Aggresive “don’t come around here no more” users”
Started off ok with my first post. Second post was considered spam (which it wasn’t plus never posted a site of my own) Instantly voted so far down that I couldn’t post a thing. Don’t like it. I don’t think a person should be knocked down so low that they can’t post just because one person thinks it’s inappropriate. It’s kind of “I’ve been here longer so I can censor what I don’t like”.
Cons
*Very hard on new people
*Total Nazi like attitudes from those that have good “Karma”
Pros
*It is a good idea and does have super potential
Having a look.
I have never come across such a mob mentality as exists amungst the ‘editors’ of this site. And the way in which the site works has allowed said mentality to become firmly entrenched.
Those who have been there the longest can edit you out of existence so far as your presence on ‘their’ site is concerned.
They can edit any remark you make and put it into any other thread to quote you out of context to make you look (on their (to my mind, totally uncreditable) site) foolish or wrong.
They can and do gang-up and bully and then remove any sign of having done so.
This ‘Karma’ (an absolute misnomer, if ever their was one) system gives power to a bunch of yobbish friends who keep each other in power. And who will jump on you should you have the ‘cheek’ to ask why a not overly interesting (admitted) but harmless thread was removed.
I only found this (hmtk.com) site after I had spent some time on Plime. When I started to feel uneasy about some of the posts and disappearances I ‘googled’ Plime and found this site.
I was thinking of setting up a ‘Plime refugee’ site where people can cut & paste the posts of the mob attacking before the Plime clean-up squad removes them all. And there is a ‘clean-up’ squad. One post bragged how quickly and easily my opinions will ‘never have existed’.
A ‘Plime refugee’ site might well make Plime even more of a backward backwater than it is at present. But in the end, unlike Plimates (as they call themselves), I believe in live and let live. And if you, Like me, can disagree with what someone has to say, but defend their right to say it, then Plime is no place for you.
You, Sir, have no idea what you’re talking about.
Go cry, emo kid.
Quixote-Grey (above) is upset because he does more than just disagree, he disagrees with hostility and blatant assholery. If you take the time to lurk a bit before joining, as most people do with most sites, you will quickly learn what is and is not acceptable behavior. People at plime very very rarely all agree on anything, so there really is not reason to but into Quixote’s “you can’t disagree or they will hate you” mentality. Just don’t be a little shit about it when you do it.
I cannot prove my case as the threads in question have been edited or wiped.
I was, however, polite at all times. I think donteatpoop might be a little frustrated because he cannot edit my findings out of existance on hear as he can on Plime. He might like to read George Orwell’s 1984.
I have wasted enough of my time on Plime. And will be wasting no more. Anyone reading this who might want to find out for themselves needs nobodies permission. Please feel free to discover for yourselves the delights of PLIME!
Continuing your friendly politeness I see. Insinuations and a generally snide attitude have served you well. You do little more than prove my point. Glad to hear you won’t be wasting anyone else’s time on plime. Go find another bridge to live under.
Steve, I’d like to apologize for this jackass. Sorry the squabble spilled over onto your site. For some reason he keeps linking to this ancient article at the end of his comments, then claims that he’s not being rude or snide over there; typical troll behavior, I know. Again, sorry to spill over onto your site.
It’s all cool. Drop me a msg on Plime and I’ll look at the thread he linked from.
donteatpoop
Your hubris is staggering.
Do not presume to apologise for me.
And whilst here I would like to comment on this:
……”I will say this though: HMTKSteve, you submitted your content to “research†plime. That’s fine, but you should have revealed your intention and you wouldn’t have gotten the same response”……
Well of course not everyone on the site would be private messaged to ‘treat this particular newbie with respect’, which in itself says ‘not the way regular newbies who aren’t writing reviews are treated’.
Do reply please. I so want to keep this site as the number 2 ranking on Google searches for ‘Plime’. People deserve to have a balanced view of what they might by getting or have gotten from any site on the web. That is what reviews and forums are for; honest opinions, open debates and balancing views.
The above should read;
Well of course not. Everyone on the site would be private messaged to ‘treat this particular newbie with respect’, which in itself says ‘not the way regular newbies who aren’t writing reviews are treated’.
Troll on, you crazy diamond.
A copy below of email I sent to the owner of Plime earlier today.
Hi,
A couple of questions and a suggestion or two.
Firstly, having been buried to a rating of minus 1, is there a way of getting out of the hole? Without re-registering?
Just a tentative suggestion; Would it not be useful to have a ‘doghouse’ tab? alongside the Arts, Entertainment, etc tabs?
A place where people in the doghouse (zero or minus rating) can still post. They would not be able to post anywhere else. If they want to rant they stay. If they want to be contrite, maybe someone will vote them up and release them, so to speak, back into the wider community.
The biggest issue I have with this site (no one special, just a regular guy trying to build a bridge), is that a person can be gagged. Freedom of speech denied. A fundermental right in any civilised society or community. Don’t Gag people and still have them as a registered user.
Another suggestion; Might it not be an idea that only the author of a post can delete or edit his/her own words. The insentive to delete would be the negs. Leave the post, keep the negs. Delete the post the negs go away.
The two suggestions need not, but maybe could, work together. If your in the doghouse and want out then delete the posts that got you there. Just an Idea.
Finally, is it possible to delete/unregister ones own account? I am not being funny, but I do not want to be registered (my detail are real as is my photograph) on a site where I have the status persona non grata.
Thanks for your time.
Yours faithfully,
QG.
The above email did not, it would appear, warrant a response.
I rest my case!
Just an attempt at avoiding misunderstandings about fundamental rights in civilized societies:
Your freedom of speech does not include the right to force your opinions upon anyone. Nobody keeps you from blogging your thoughts all across the internet. The fact that your Plime account got banned has nothing (repeat: NOTHING) to do with infringement of rights. It’s simply an infdicator for a certain group of people not being interest in what you have to say.
So please stop whining. Invoking violations of human rights for being told to please STFU is pretty damn pathetic. You’re a blogger. You’re sharing your opinions with the whole world 24/7. Please give us a break, mkay?
Another Blogger gave the following as an analogy of my time on Plime:
Analogy Time
There’s a big ongoing party that everyone is invited to. Everyone. People come, people go; some linger around longer than others.
The music is bumping, the drinks are cold and intoxicating, the food is delicious, and the people seem to get along nicely for the most part.
One day this dude walks in, a new guy; first time he’d decided to take advantage of the open invite. He drinks the beer, eats the food, converses a little here and there; and then he decides that he isn’t digging much on the party.
Now, instead of just leaving like most polite people would do, he shuts off the music for a moment and gets on the microphone.
“Hi everyone, I know I’ve only been here for a few minutes but I just wanted to bring a few things to your attention. First, this music sucks. I mean seriously, it’s terrible. Secondly this beer is like piss in a bottle. The food was absolutely wretched, and to be perfectly frank you people bore and annoy the hell out of me.”
Surprisingly the many many people at the party were not pleased with this announcement. As one they told the new guy to get the hell out of the place, kicking him out the door from whence he came.
Once he left, the party resumed.
But the guy was actually offended by this. How dare they tell him to leave! He was only expressing himself, only offering them an objective veiwpoint! This simply would not do!
He went around town telling a few people here and there about the terrible experience he had at the party. Some people listened to him and took his words to heart, most just ignored him. But that didn’t stop him from trying to spread negativity about the party.
It is said that the guy still resents the party and party goers.
Despite his efforts, the party went on uninterrupted. That party still goes on today. The moon still revolves around the Earth, and the Earth still spins around the sun.
Moral: Freedom of speech does not entitle you to be an asshole.
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My response is a far more acurate analogy.
As follows:
Alternative Analogy Time.
Bloke is driving down the info’ highway and notices a light off to the side and in the distance. He drives down there to find a venue, above the door to which is ‘News Aggregator’s Forum’ , on the door a note, ‘Open, all welcome’. He goes in.
There is music, food, drink and conversation. There are message boards where people are invited to post comments on other’s topics, or indeed post a topic of their own.
The conversations are not open to newbies, not a problem, bloke reads some posts. He comments on some posts. All, it seems, is well. His comments are well received and his rating within the forum is on the up. He might even be able to listen to and join a conversation or two soon.
Bloke reads the rebuking of a poster on some trivial thing or other, and pays little mind to it. Then he sees people who have the rating and so the power to do so, go around removing and shredding posts. Others editing other’s posts.
Bloke gets on his laptop and Googles the forum. Some people have been there, left, and told others that this isn’t a very friendly community. He does not take this as gospel, but draws attention to the comments to see what the community has to say about them. Thinking ‘how this is reponded to will be a very good indication as to wether the negative review/comments are still, if ever they were, true’.
Well. Now the music stops (not bloke, he hasn’t the rating, hence nor the means to change anything). The atmosphere changes. People whisper to people who whisper to people. Indignation is in the air and looks to be contagious. Some fight the contagion. Others don’t try to. ‘Who is this bloke?’,'bloody cheek!’, indignation turns to hostility, ‘Quick, shut him up’, ‘Gag him!’, ‘Bury him!’. Ordinarily rational individuals congeal into a mob.
An ‘innocuous’ post appears on a note that has a gravestone as it’s letterhead (avatar). A topic is ‘revived’, and brought into service, headed ‘Plime’s Graveyard’. Another ‘innocuous’, - seeming countdown to burial - topic appears. No. No, that’s paranoia. Surely. Isn’t it?
Bloke looks at some stats. How many people registered here? He can’t find that info. Number of sites that link to Plime 1,778. Over 1600 people have marked their locations. How many haven’t? Could be tens of thousands. He looks at those who post regularly and guesses at a few or so dozen. How many are multiple registered. No way of knowing.
Bloke has to wonder, how many of the registered are now ‘buried’?
It may well be that, –”The music is bumping, the drinks are cold and intoxicating, the food is delicious, and the people seem to get along nicely for the most part”. When no-one is asking awkward questions.
But:
Is this cosy community now located in the middle of a vast graveyard where ‘rest’ Plime’s persona’s non grata? And how many times bigger than the active community might this graveyard be? And what might have been the ‘crimes’ of all those buried?
Moral: As with opinions, there can be more than one analogy. And analogies can be slanted, biased or just plain wrong.
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I cannot understand how someone can spout:
“Moral: Freedom of speech does not entitle you to be an asshole.” And so convincingly demonstrate that it clearly does.
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Plime; sublime or SUBPRIME!!
I Have been lurking on & off. And looks fine to me. But I take your point that you cant see what has been removed. Can seem a little Stepford-ish.
Your letting them know on Plime was removed in about 30 seconds!!
What are they SO frightened off?
Definately subprime!
My notifying the subprimates (sorry petty I know (I couldn’t help myself (…:-)………))) of the above update, dated today, was removed from Plime in about 30 seconds.
As my good wife commented;
What are they SO frightened of??
Weird! Not weird and wonderful weird. Weird….Yuck!
PS
Just a little postscript to let you mob from Plime know how much it pleases me to know that, having deleted my opinions from your site, you cannot help yourselves from gravitating to read this.
How perverse!
Oh that’s your wife agreeing with you. No bias, I’m sure. Lol.
Move on man, there’s a whole internet out there.
Just to point it out, there are no moderators deleting things they don’t want to see; there are just a bunch of people who don’t like what you’re saying over there.
(had you not commented on my blog pointing here, I wouldn’t have come at all)
Thank you for your concern as to how I spend my Time, but really a cut & paste of our ‘ancient’ tit for tat was no problem. No problem at all.
Also I wouldn’t advertise your blog if I were you!
PS
Just a little postscript to let you mob from Plime know how much it pleases me to know that, having deleted my opinions from your site, you cannot help yourselves from gravitating to read this.
How perverse!
I know, I know, I pointed it out to you. But you all know it’s here and don’t have to read it. And why suckersklub waited 6 weeks before coming back to have the last say I don’t know.
Do you not realise that you cannot win? Not here. Not on this site. If you don’t like a persons opinions or points of view, on Plime you can delete them and gag the person. On here you cannot. So by posting here you are saying:-
‘We do not like your opinions go away, so when you go away we can go to where you have gone to read and reply to your opinions’.
PPS
Now don’t you think, honestly, that Plime would have been so much the better, so much more credible, had this thread been ‘allowed’ on Plime?
Sorry, must add: I meant I wouldn’t have come to this ancient post, not the site; I like hmtksteve’s site. I subscribe and shit.
Comment by suckersklub
2009-03-15 12:55:43
Just an attempt at avoiding misunderstandings about fundamental rights in civilized societies:
Your freedom of speech does not include the right to force your opinions upon anyone. Nobody keeps you from blogging your thoughts all across the internet. The fact that your Plime account got banned has nothing (repeat: NOTHING) to do with infringement of rights. It’s simply an infdicator for a certain group of people not being interest in what you have to say.
So please stop whining. Invoking violations of human rights for being told to please STFU is pretty damn pathetic. You’re a blogger. You’re sharing your opinions with the whole world 24/7. Please give us a break, mkay?
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In answer to the above:-
You just don’t get it do you?
There is none so blind as those who ‘choose’ not to see.
Though, even if this were my site I would not tell you to go away. I might not like what you say ( I might think you an utter idiot ) but I Defend your right to say it.
Just to address the following:-
Comment by donteatpoop
2009-03-25 01:40:23
“Oh that’s your wife agreeing with you.”
Yes, but she certainly knows how not to.
HMTKSteve.
Thanks for giving us the space for this debate/arguement.
Doing so is a credit to you.
I think we are done now.
“It’s all cool”. :-)
Finished yet?
Believe it or not people read my blog without me advertising it. That is how I believe sucker came here, from checking my comments. I could be wrong, he could be obsessing over your insulting yet irresistably clever barage of bashing.
People don’t usually like assholes and tend to kick them out. Guess where that places you? Sorry the people of plime weren’t overcome with your amazing wit and charm and chose to delete your thread (with more than 100 negative votes applied to it… That’s how much they liked you).
Maybe try digg, reddit, fark… Somewhere else where your overwhelming charisma will win over the masses and allow you to develop a cult following.
I anxiously await your next string of replies that for some reason you cannot manage to fit into one post. I wonder if it is because you can’t concentrate long enough to fit it into one or because you’re actually so distressed that you post them as the thoughts come to you.
Please read sarcasm into this comment as you see fit.
Note: I will be deleting future comments on my blog from you that have anything to do with this rambling’ post or plime. Since I know you go to my blog specifically to read all of my charming and witty anecdote, I hope that you can focus on the topics at hand instead of something that you should have managed to move past by now. You may also notice that I have still not once edited or deleted a comment of yours from my blog (or from plime). Until now.
It’s been a pleasure tolerating your antagonism QG, now go focus on the good things in your life instead of a petty internet squabble.
Why is it that liars find the truth to be “irresistably clever”?
It isn’t, it’s just the truth!
Hit a nerve, I think.
You belong on Plime. Your double standards qualify you.
You have been insulting me as well as, if not more, than my arguements.
Take your own advice; let it go!
To be honest, I only returned here last week because I had googled “That Hoosker is a real dick.” Then I stayed for the laid-back atmosphere.
Anyone thinking of visiting Plime check out first what passes for opinion/arguement/debate on here:
http://donteatpoop.blogspot.com/
This is from one of the big cheeses come defenders/spokesmen of Plime.
He has even gone so far as to censor HIS OWN BLOG. NOT for reasons of profanity, insult (he couldn’t really), nor religious, racial or political intollerance. No. He has censored OPINION. Just like they do on his favourite site, Plime.
My friend, you have shot yourself in the foot and are just not bright enough to realise it, Yet. But you will. It will come to you.
But don’t anybody hold their breath, Eh?
SHAME!
It occured to me after posting (A bit slow, I know. What can I say; I’m getting old) my reference to:
http://donteatpoop.blogspot.com/
that you can’t really check out what passes for opinion/arguement/debate there. It is after all censored (my pet hate, censorship). And, as has been said, you cannot read what has been removed or censored.
When I first visited donteatpoop’s blog I thought ‘well, it is what it is’ (judge for yourselves (in as much as you now can)). But above the crass crudity it had a strong sense of honesty. Of integrity. He published others comments even if and when they were at odds with his own.
He now allows (which is not a problem so far as I am concerned) his friend and follow subprimate to say of me:
“Bloke didn’t get enough love from Mum.
Bloke was forced to school with Davey Jones lunch pale.
Bloke blames others for shortcomings
Bloke becomes narcissistic.
Bloke isn’t even British.”
But then goes on to censors me saying that if he censors me he is as bad as Plime.
I am a little disappointed. Seriously, I mean it. I don’t know why I should be, only that I am.
I thought, Ben, that beyond your bigmouth and bull****, you were somehow quite genuine. And that you were not running with the mob for the reason that most do. To stay on side. From a ‘at least while we are all kicking him no one is kicking me’ mentality. But were, rather, defending something that you didn’t see as all that bad. Even if you were wrong and your defence of it was vulgar.
I noticed also that when you said on your blog:
“I’ve decided to stop publishing Quixnote-Grey’s comments as he is stuck on one topic and will not move from it. He continues to attempt to antagonize and act like a bitch and I’ve decided that I’m uninterested in putting up with it anymore.”
That you didn’t provide a link to here so that anyone reading your blog could judge for themselves wether I was/am in fact continuing to “antagonize and act like a bitch” or rather defending my opinions in the face personal abuse.
Honesty and integrity! You can’t buy them!
So, finally, we appear to be at the end (again)of the ‘lets try to stiffle the opinions of anyone who dares expose the collective mentality of the subprimates (and where we can’t edit or delete said exposure (sob))’.
At least donteatpoop saw the light and decided that it was not worth trashing the integrity of his own blog in his efforts to defend Plime.
So, in closing, I’ll take a final look at Plime’s claim of itself:
Claim:
“Plime is a news aggregator”
Response:
Very loosely. If you want news you might find that The BBC, CNN or Reuters don’t do too shabby a job of providing it.
Claim:
“wiki” (editable by all)”
Response:
Not so. Another deception. It is editable only by those with high ‘Karma’ (misnomer). And those who have high ‘Karma’ make sure by vetting others that only those who fit in with their mentality get even close to being able to ‘chat’ let alone ‘edit’.
Claim:
“and friend finder in one.”
Response:
LMAO.
Seriously though, if you are looking for friends it might not be a bad idea to look outside of your computer.
Claim:
“It relies on the power of online community participation to control it’s structure and editorial content.”
Response:
That online community consists of a relative few with numerous ID’s given ‘Karma’ by their ‘friends’ and their ‘own’ other ID’s.
A very interesting stat that we will never know: How many active members are their once you strip out the multiple ID’s and just how many have ‘passed through’; registered and been seen off??? Now THAT, I would be interested to know!
Claim:
“It’s also a great place to meet others with similar interests.”
Response:
Judge for yourselves!
Plime is utterly spurious.
Plime. Sublime or SUBPRIME? (Catchy, isn’t it?) :-)
I’m almost sorry to interrupt your ongoing monologue - just dropped by to find this place getting better every single day!
(This time, I was referred here from Mr. Donteatpoops blog indeed.)
Very entertaining, keep up the good work!
Excuse me now, I have to go back to Plime and upvote my numerous other IDs into Super Nazi Uberplimates. BBL!
(Did I just accidentally invoke Godwin’s Law? I hope not. This thread had so much potential.)
I think the argument has always been that plimates are Nazi like so it would seem the last poster doesn’t understand Godwin’s law which he referred to
below is another point of view
http://www.untwistedvortex.com/2007/03/09/attack-of-the-killer-mutant-social-news-site-nazis/
Your article there pretty much says it: You bloggers have an image problem. It’s yours, not ours. Feel free to come back once you’ve fixed it.
(For some odd reason, I feel like I need to explain my presence here every time I visit this site. This time, it was (again!) a discussion about Mr. Hoosker’s dick. We’re a funny bunch over at Plime, you know.)
I have heard that it is so big some people mistake him for it, hence the popular saying, “Hoosker is a dick!” :)
This is true.