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		<title>By: Web Host Asp net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Host Asp net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice about the what woman answer.  Everything is a test. ha/ha</description>
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		<title>By: Chloe501</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe501</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus was never married.</description>
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		<title>By: Melanie Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mary Ann for your illustration and comments about John Grey.  That is exactly the point: when a man in our culture does not have the ability to look at all the lies that he wants to hear, how he deliberately places his partner in a moral dilemma(for fear of losing him to a woman who WILL lie to him-check out the lyrics to &quot;Real Love&quot; M. McDonald, please Joel)quite a few times throughout the day or at least to the point of making being &quot;tactful&quot; a daily landmine field of constant tension and fear, then you have what passes for &quot;marriage&quot; as opposed to what God really wants marriage to be.  There are men to a lesser degree that do that, but the problem happens when men allow other men (because of the culture you tolerate between yourselves) to make you dishonest about how you really feel about the rudeness and backstabbing you put up with between each other and call that &quot;the way it is&quot;.  That may be the way it is bewteen you men.  But don&#039;t bring it home and do as one PBS Radio commentator (a male Btw) put it: &quot;lay the club of language on the table&quot;.  You may think this is cool, reasonable and smarter and more &quot;honest&quot; than women, but the reality is that it is no fun being the women who has to muffle the moan of internal agony you cause by doing it and wipe up the invisible &quot;blood&quot; your supposed &quot;superior smarts and honesty&quot; have spilled.  Joel, you are the &quot;leader&quot; as you probably would like to be anyway.  Great!  More power to you!  But why don&#039;t you learn that its not your job to make a &quot;smarter and better&quot; model of the woman.  It&#039;s your job to be a servant leader (Hint: that means you give more than you think you are getting and this is what brings you realjoy on the inside)  I guarentee you things will change in your home in ways that will astound you. And the changes you really want, the ones God knows will satisfy you as a man, WILL occur.  Try making Jesus your hero and template rather than the present sports hero of the moment or the current business tycoon.  Use what works.  Jesus works.  Those other guys are having the news report on their marriage failures daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mary Ann for your illustration and comments about John Grey.  That is exactly the point: when a man in our culture does not have the ability to look at all the lies that he wants to hear, how he deliberately places his partner in a moral dilemma(for fear of losing him to a woman who WILL lie to him-check out the lyrics to &#8220;Real Love&#8221; M. McDonald, please Joel)quite a few times throughout the day or at least to the point of making being &#8220;tactful&#8221; a daily landmine field of constant tension and fear, then you have what passes for &#8220;marriage&#8221; as opposed to what God really wants marriage to be.  There are men to a lesser degree that do that, but the problem happens when men allow other men (because of the culture you tolerate between yourselves) to make you dishonest about how you really feel about the rudeness and backstabbing you put up with between each other and call that &#8220;the way it is&#8221;.  That may be the way it is bewteen you men.  But don&#8217;t bring it home and do as one PBS Radio commentator (a male Btw) put it: &#8220;lay the club of language on the table&#8221;.  You may think this is cool, reasonable and smarter and more &#8220;honest&#8221; than women, but the reality is that it is no fun being the women who has to muffle the moan of internal agony you cause by doing it and wipe up the invisible &#8220;blood&#8221; your supposed &#8220;superior smarts and honesty&#8221; have spilled.  Joel, you are the &#8220;leader&#8221; as you probably would like to be anyway.  Great!  More power to you!  But why don&#8217;t you learn that its not your job to make a &#8220;smarter and better&#8221; model of the woman.  It&#8217;s your job to be a servant leader (Hint: that means you give more than you think you are getting and this is what brings you realjoy on the inside)  I guarentee you things will change in your home in ways that will astound you. And the changes you really want, the ones God knows will satisfy you as a man, WILL occur.  Try making Jesus your hero and template rather than the present sports hero of the moment or the current business tycoon.  Use what works.  Jesus works.  Those other guys are having the news report on their marriage failures daily.</p>
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		<title>By: wikked</title>
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		<dc:creator>wikked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are such an ass....and i do not change oil or like to cook...BTW you never offer to change the oil either!
Plus I am not fat and do not ask your opinion of my fashion choices!
wikked wife</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are such an ass&#8230;.and i do not change oil or like to cook&#8230;BTW you never offer to change the oil either!<br />
Plus I am not fat and do not ask your opinion of my fashion choices!<br />
wikked wife</p>
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		<title>By: wikked</title>
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		<dc:creator>wikked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel....lighten up!  It sounds like you have many issues  (negative ones) with women.  I have always been a very independent woman, I know how to make decisions and deal with peolple.  I owned my own home before I got married and gave birth to my daughter (who also is the daughter of Steve).  I passed him that article because it was pretty funny, don&#039;t you think????  You cannot label people based on gender, we are all different.
wikked</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel&#8230;.lighten up!  It sounds like you have many issues  (negative ones) with women.  I have always been a very independent woman, I know how to make decisions and deal with peolple.  I owned my own home before I got married and gave birth to my daughter (who also is the daughter of Steve).  I passed him that article because it was pretty funny, don&#8217;t you think????  You cannot label people based on gender, we are all different.<br />
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		<title>By: MaryAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

This argument has become tiresome would you not agree?  Nowhere did I say that women are always better communicators - I am speaking in generalities here.  I object to your use of the word narcissistic when referencing how women communicate.  In your response, you say, &quot;True equality must include equal accountability as well as the thoughtfulness...&quot; Are you always accountable to your misgivings and are you always thoughtful?  No, none of us can state with any truth that we are either.  Unlike the women you reference in your life, I can resolve issues with my female counterparts in the same amount of time as I can with my male counterparts.  When it comes to resolving issues with my partner, it often takes longer.  Why?  It&#039;s really much more simple than you think.

Comparing your wife&#039;s ability or lack thereof as you infer, to your ability, to resolve an issue with a male friend is like comparing apples to a side of beef.  You don&#039;t have the emotional connection, sexual connection and biological connection to your friend as you do with your wife.  How you could expect to resolve issues with your wife the way you do with your friend?  Do you sleep with your friends?  Do you have an intimate history or children with your friends?  No, you likely do not.  Therefore, issues that arise with your wife are likely to be much more emotionally charged - there is more at stake for her and for you.  It takes much more tact, patience and a great deal of active listening to resolve an issue with your partner in life than it does with a friend.  At the end of the day, you don&#039;t go home with your friend. 

Human beings, not just women, are emotional.  To recognize this is vital in any relationship.  To belittle women by suggesting that we are narcissistic because we take longer (in your opinion and experience) to process our emotions in an argument is faulty at best.  Your wife takes longer to process her feelings in an argument because she is having it with you, not because she is unable to communicate effectively.

Statistics show that parents often raise their boys much differently from their girls and are quick to shush a crying boy than a girl.  Studies have shown that mothers are faster in responding to their crying daughters than they are their sons.  This sends a message to their son that it is not okay to cry.  This can and often does lead to a stifling of this any perceived negative emotion.  We all possess EQ and IQ and both are important.  Emotional Intelligence helps us to foster healthy relationships with our friends, loved-ones and colleagues.  An unhealthy EQ leads to poor communication and an inability to hold healthy relationships in one&#039;s life.

Lastly, your comment, &quot;As for narcissism, the obsession with ones own image to the extent that it becomes a central point of focus in ones life shows how unbalanced any person with this problem has become.&quot;  Unbalanced, yes.  Narcissistic, hardly.  A woman with low self-esteem will obsess about her physical appearance but this is quite opposite to narcissism.  This isn&#039;t semantics but clarity Joel.  Our media has helped to create this crisis of the body with women for decades.  It&#039;s one of the reasons I refuse to buy &#039;women&#039;s magazines and  why I will discourage my daughter from purchasing them.  If she chooses to do so, I will talk with her about the unrealistic images portrayed in them and the techniques editors use to create these images.  

As for the author John Grey - his book is possibly the most ridiculous piece of writing I have ever read.  In one of his examples about how to communicate he talks about a man and a woman going to a movie.  After the movie has finished and the man asks the woman whether or not she liked the film, he suggests that the woman find something positive to say about the film whether she liked it or not or she may bruise his ego for his movie selecting ability.  If a man&#039;s ego is that fragile, then I wouldn&#039;t want to date/marry that man.  My husband appreciates my honesty and would never feel hurt if I gave a movie a criticism he didn&#039;t agree with.  This not to mention that Mr. Grey, is not a psychologist and has never to my knowledge attended a psychology class.  More to the point his first marriage failed because of his infidelity.  What knowledge can he impart about strengthening a marriage or the communication between a man and a woman?  Nothing, I assure you, absolutely nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>This argument has become tiresome would you not agree?  Nowhere did I say that women are always better communicators &#8211; I am speaking in generalities here.  I object to your use of the word narcissistic when referencing how women communicate.  In your response, you say, &#8220;True equality must include equal accountability as well as the thoughtfulness&#8230;&#8221; Are you always accountable to your misgivings and are you always thoughtful?  No, none of us can state with any truth that we are either.  Unlike the women you reference in your life, I can resolve issues with my female counterparts in the same amount of time as I can with my male counterparts.  When it comes to resolving issues with my partner, it often takes longer.  Why?  It&#8217;s really much more simple than you think.</p>
<p>Comparing your wife&#8217;s ability or lack thereof as you infer, to your ability, to resolve an issue with a male friend is like comparing apples to a side of beef.  You don&#8217;t have the emotional connection, sexual connection and biological connection to your friend as you do with your wife.  How you could expect to resolve issues with your wife the way you do with your friend?  Do you sleep with your friends?  Do you have an intimate history or children with your friends?  No, you likely do not.  Therefore, issues that arise with your wife are likely to be much more emotionally charged &#8211; there is more at stake for her and for you.  It takes much more tact, patience and a great deal of active listening to resolve an issue with your partner in life than it does with a friend.  At the end of the day, you don&#8217;t go home with your friend. </p>
<p>Human beings, not just women, are emotional.  To recognize this is vital in any relationship.  To belittle women by suggesting that we are narcissistic because we take longer (in your opinion and experience) to process our emotions in an argument is faulty at best.  Your wife takes longer to process her feelings in an argument because she is having it with you, not because she is unable to communicate effectively.</p>
<p>Statistics show that parents often raise their boys much differently from their girls and are quick to shush a crying boy than a girl.  Studies have shown that mothers are faster in responding to their crying daughters than they are their sons.  This sends a message to their son that it is not okay to cry.  This can and often does lead to a stifling of this any perceived negative emotion.  We all possess EQ and IQ and both are important.  Emotional Intelligence helps us to foster healthy relationships with our friends, loved-ones and colleagues.  An unhealthy EQ leads to poor communication and an inability to hold healthy relationships in one&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>Lastly, your comment, &#8220;As for narcissism, the obsession with ones own image to the extent that it becomes a central point of focus in ones life shows how unbalanced any person with this problem has become.&#8221;  Unbalanced, yes.  Narcissistic, hardly.  A woman with low self-esteem will obsess about her physical appearance but this is quite opposite to narcissism.  This isn&#8217;t semantics but clarity Joel.  Our media has helped to create this crisis of the body with women for decades.  It&#8217;s one of the reasons I refuse to buy &#8216;women&#8217;s magazines and  why I will discourage my daughter from purchasing them.  If she chooses to do so, I will talk with her about the unrealistic images portrayed in them and the techniques editors use to create these images.  </p>
<p>As for the author John Grey &#8211; his book is possibly the most ridiculous piece of writing I have ever read.  In one of his examples about how to communicate he talks about a man and a woman going to a movie.  After the movie has finished and the man asks the woman whether or not she liked the film, he suggests that the woman find something positive to say about the film whether she liked it or not or she may bruise his ego for his movie selecting ability.  If a man&#8217;s ego is that fragile, then I wouldn&#8217;t want to date/marry that man.  My husband appreciates my honesty and would never feel hurt if I gave a movie a criticism he didn&#8217;t agree with.  This not to mention that Mr. Grey, is not a psychologist and has never to my knowledge attended a psychology class.  More to the point his first marriage failed because of his infidelity.  What knowledge can he impart about strengthening a marriage or the communication between a man and a woman?  Nothing, I assure you, absolutely nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, MaryAnn, it&#039;s not that difficult.  I was raised to respect women and be well-mannered in my dealings with them.  I have been taught to communicate well by actually listening, with the thought of understanding in a compassionate way.  My wife quoted the author of a self-help book that she read as an excuse for why she could not resolve an issue of her behavior, which was quite hypcritical.  What I have noted is that there is the belief on the part of too many women that if a man has a different viewpoint or way of doing things, he is wrong, and she is right.  True equality must include equal accountability as well as the thoughtfulness that things like the Golden Rule teach us.  MADD is an example of what happens when women expect to always be right. It does not matter that her way of dealing with the man in her life is as much or more sexist than he is likely to be.  As for narcissism, the obsession with ones own image to the extent that it becomes a central point of focus in ones life shows how unbalanced any person with this problem has become.  Take care of your health and personal appearance, of course.  But don&#039;t base your sense of personal value in it.  Knowing that you have a healthy sense of your own worth should lead you to be able to allow others to have their own view of things without being a threat.  You don&#039;t have to agree with them, but neither do they have to agree with you without having a fallout of some kind.  &quot;Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.&quot;  As I said, it&#039;s not that difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, MaryAnn, it&#8217;s not that difficult.  I was raised to respect women and be well-mannered in my dealings with them.  I have been taught to communicate well by actually listening, with the thought of understanding in a compassionate way.  My wife quoted the author of a self-help book that she read as an excuse for why she could not resolve an issue of her behavior, which was quite hypcritical.  What I have noted is that there is the belief on the part of too many women that if a man has a different viewpoint or way of doing things, he is wrong, and she is right.  True equality must include equal accountability as well as the thoughtfulness that things like the Golden Rule teach us.  MADD is an example of what happens when women expect to always be right. It does not matter that her way of dealing with the man in her life is as much or more sexist than he is likely to be.  As for narcissism, the obsession with ones own image to the extent that it becomes a central point of focus in ones life shows how unbalanced any person with this problem has become.  Take care of your health and personal appearance, of course.  But don&#8217;t base your sense of personal value in it.  Knowing that you have a healthy sense of your own worth should lead you to be able to allow others to have their own view of things without being a threat.  You don&#8217;t have to agree with them, but neither do they have to agree with you without having a fallout of some kind.  &#8220;Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.&#8221;  As I said, it&#8217;s not that difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: MaryAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaryAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing to me that you have a wife with that line of thinking.  Does she know you&#039;re sexist or do you hide that from her?  Are you a 17 year old posing as a man or are you man who still thinks he&#039;s 17 years old?

Narcissism?  Women in their 40&#039;s tend to look at themselves in the mirror and pick themselves apart perceived flaw by perceived flaw while men look in the mirror and think they look the same as they did when they were 20.  Who&#039;s narcissistic?  Having personal insight isn&#039;t a male or female trait Joel, but it is a trait that many of you posting seem to lack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing to me that you have a wife with that line of thinking.  Does she know you&#8217;re sexist or do you hide that from her?  Are you a 17 year old posing as a man or are you man who still thinks he&#8217;s 17 years old?</p>
<p>Narcissism?  Women in their 40&#8217;s tend to look at themselves in the mirror and pick themselves apart perceived flaw by perceived flaw while men look in the mirror and think they look the same as they did when they were 20.  Who&#8217;s narcissistic?  Having personal insight isn&#8217;t a male or female trait Joel, but it is a trait that many of you posting seem to lack.</p>
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		<title>By: esofthub</title>
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		<dc:creator>esofthub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Your last paragraph was classic -- I like to think of it as &quot;domestic maneuvering.&quot; 

Roy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Your last paragraph was classic &#8212; I like to think of it as &#8220;domestic maneuvering.&#8221; </p>
<p>Roy</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The quote my wife gave me is that what a man can resolve in his mind in 10 minutes takes a woman about 8 months to resolve.  The reason is that women do not (cannot?) compartmentalize their thinking and feeling, and as a result do things on the basis of multi-tasking.  They just can&#039;t resolve any emotionally charged issue that quickly.  What two men can talk about and resolve between them with near total clarity takes as little as 10 minutes and a few hundred words. Two women would take eight months or more and a few million words with no guaranty that they would ever truly have consensus.  Who is the better communicator?  Watch &#039;The View&#039; and see how women talk to be heard but rarely actually listen to anything that does not offend them. It is all about her. End of story. To misquote Shakespeare further, &quot;Narcissism, thy name is woman.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quote my wife gave me is that what a man can resolve in his mind in 10 minutes takes a woman about 8 months to resolve.  The reason is that women do not (cannot?) compartmentalize their thinking and feeling, and as a result do things on the basis of multi-tasking.  They just can&#8217;t resolve any emotionally charged issue that quickly.  What two men can talk about and resolve between them with near total clarity takes as little as 10 minutes and a few hundred words. Two women would take eight months or more and a few million words with no guaranty that they would ever truly have consensus.  Who is the better communicator?  Watch &#8216;The View&#8217; and see how women talk to be heard but rarely actually listen to anything that does not offend them. It is all about her. End of story. To misquote Shakespeare further, &#8220;Narcissism, thy name is woman.&#8221;</p>
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